Did you know some guitar players are frammers? I didn't-until I overheard an elderly gentleman in Haywood County say the following:
Lots of people think they're guitar pickers and a lot of them can play but a lot of them are nothing but frammers. I mean they don't know how to really play a guitar.
I couldn't wait to look for the word frammer in my Dictionary of Smoky Mountain English. The dictionary has 2 entries for fram:
- fram verb to beat or strike. 1953 Wilson Folk Speech NC 548 = to whip, beat: "He frammed the old feller pretty good."
- fram pole noun 1953 citation. 1952 Wilson Folk Speech NC 542-53 = a weapon; a stick or some other object with which to beat one. "Goin' a get me a fram-pole and beat you up."
The Merriam-Webster online dictionary states the word fram means to beat or whip and is of unknown origin.
The gentleman I overheard used the word frammer to mean-a lot of people pretended to know how to play the guitar when they really don't.
I've heard the remark "he just beats on that ole guitar" more than a few times. After reading the definitions of fram I can see where one could jump from using beat in connection to playing a guitar to fram in connection to playing a guitar.
I've never heard frammer-fram-or fram pole used before have you? I like the word frammer-I can't wait to use it the next time I see someone acting like they're an expert at something they actually know nothing about.
Tipper
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I used to play guitar well enough, but my approach to cooking might be something along the lines of framming. Hit or miss.
Posted by: Quinn | January 06, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Tipper, this is one of your vocabulary words I have heard. Framming on a guitar is familiar to me. Never heard of a fram pole however.
Posted by: Glenda Beall | January 04, 2013 at 09:50 PM
Love it! Definitely a new word for me and can think of so many uses for it! I'm pretty much a frammer myself!
Posted by: Paula | January 04, 2013 at 09:35 AM
Never heard it-but know it when I see it!
Posted by: Suzi Phillips | January 03, 2013 at 09:44 PM
Fram is my new favorite word, thanks for sharing!
Posted by: Ethel | January 03, 2013 at 09:10 PM
OHHH, so that's what that was,, I knew there had to be a more PG rated name for it,,,
Posted by: Tim Mc | January 03, 2013 at 08:38 PM
Been there, done that! Hopefully I've gotten better.
Posted by: Bob Dalsemer | January 03, 2013 at 05:27 PM
Here im Mississippi we say "frail"!
as in- somebody needs to take a frail-pole to that feller!!
Posted by: Mike Echols | January 03, 2013 at 05:27 PM
I've know several frammers, not knowing that was the word for them.
Posted by: kat | January 03, 2013 at 04:20 PM
Donna-me too : )
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Posted by: Tipper | January 03, 2013 at 03:05 PM
I often wondered when someone played the guiter like it had been bad and was now been punished was called that must be it.....FRAMMING
Posted by: Barry Upward | January 03, 2013 at 02:09 PM
Tipper,
I've never heard of frammering
either. If frammering applied to
a piano, I'd probably be guilty.
I use to bang on one of those.
One thing for sure though, Paul
sure ain't no frammer. He's the
best guitar player I've ever heard...Ken
Posted by: Ken | January 03, 2013 at 01:30 PM
Yep! I've heard plenty of frammin' on a guitar. Mostly it means somebody who knows a few chords but not enough single notes like the alternating bass strings so s/he just plays the full chord for each of the beats in the measure. Obviously, this does not apply to any of your kin!
Frammin' a banjer is hard to do but some people manage to never progress enough to keep from it.
Posted by: Howland | January 03, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Tipper,
I've heerd the old rascal down the road aways complain of not gettin' any work. For the youngin' in the next holler always is tellin' the boss he frammed up a whole house by hisownself.
The other fram, I never heerd...
Thanks Tipper,
Put that'n in the margins of yore Smoky Mountain Anglish book!
Posted by: B. ruth | January 03, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Fram is a new word for me. Maybe it is a local use word. However, I am pronouncing it with a short a since it doesn't have a vowel at the word's end to make it long. I hope I am correct. Anyway, thanks for the new word - I am not a frammer, however.
Posted by: dolores | January 03, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Frams me. This makes me think of an old friend of mine, who was an immigrant from Italy. She would have said "I think to myself, what means this word fram?" Ya'll have a great day.
Posted by: Tim Hassell | January 03, 2013 at 10:17 AM
My husband is a guitar picker but has had some close friends who were absolutely frammers...and that's how we referred to them. They would get together and jam...they had a little band and various players would sit in at different times. I always looked forward to my husbands picking as oppposed to their framming. Marylou in Dover, Fla.
Posted by: Marylou Sweat | January 03, 2013 at 10:02 AM
Great word. Tipper. I will try to add it to my vocabulary.
Posted by: Sallie aka granny Covolo | January 03, 2013 at 09:26 AM
I had never heard the word until I met my sweet wife from upstate SC. I was teasing her once and she said she was going to fram the h#% out of me if didn't stop! I tease her from a distance now!
Posted by: Ron Banks | January 03, 2013 at 09:26 AM
I have heard an old carpenter use fram. He used it like this {a piece would not go and he might tell his helper I'll hold it you fram the H--- out of it it'll get in then}. Some carpenter use hard words sometimes sorry.
Posted by: grandpa Ken | January 03, 2013 at 08:58 AM
"Frammer" and "fram pole" were both new words to me! Thanks for informing us! I'm sure, if we are honest, we can apply "frammer" to many things we do--pretending we really know how, but inside we fear our sham and supposed-expertise will be found out! This quotation from Henry Ford seems to go along quite well with frammer: "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you are right."
Posted by: Ethelene Dyer Jones | January 03, 2013 at 08:49 AM
Being one that goes to many music functions, I've heard a lot of frammering taking place, including myself. I am a pro at frammering right along with others. Never heard of this term before either, but I have certainly HEARD the action of it being commited!!!
Posted by: Angie | January 03, 2013 at 08:16 AM
Never heard that word used in any context. I have, however, seen it done.
Posted by: Miss Cindy | January 03, 2013 at 07:50 AM
I have heard frail in the context of banjo playing, meaning a style of hard strumming and little picking. But fram is new to me and a good one.
Posted by: Judy Mincey | January 03, 2013 at 07:24 AM
I confess. I'm a frammer.
Posted by: Donna W | January 03, 2013 at 07:10 AM