During the months since we first visited Lufty Baptist Church, I've kept going back to the list of names I found in the book- Ocona Lufta Baptist Pioneer Church of the Smokies 1836-1939 written by Florence Cope Bush.
The book lists over a 1,000 names from church records. I even spent one evening writing down names that struck my fancy-thinking more than once if I'd read the book before I had the girls I might have named them Haseltine and Eximena or maybe Cpradela and Jessomay.
Many of the name entries were initials. I wrote about the numerous men I know from my own community whose names are initials way back when I first started the Blind Pig.
The initials in the church records may stand for names-or like the men I know-the initials may actually be the name.
As I read through the names some jumped out at me-I'm sure the uniqueness of the name was the reason-but for whatever reason I felt a strong connection to the following names and felt like once again bringing them to life:
- Cread Ayers
- Larentine Barton
- Emina Beck
- M.E.J. Beck
- Palestine Beck
- Teenzy Beck
- Emer Bradley
- Exemine Bradley
- J.C.R. Bradley
- Marsayas Bradley
- Manerva Bradley
- Moas Bradley
- Theodica Bradley
- Zadock Bradley
- Umphrey Braum
- Narciuss Carver
- Rintha Carver
- Arbazena Conner
- Bushrod Conner
- Grettie Conner
- Jahu Conner
- Darcus Elliott
- Etter Gibson
- Turzy Ann Gibson
- Clerecy Ann Griffith
- Kezziah Griffith
- Celinda Harris
- Severe Husky
- Arbasure Mack
- Pudan Matthews
- Arbazena McMahan
- Fieldan Minges
- Necisus Nelson
- Pleasant Roberts
- Hosey Ruff
- Rectaner Treadway
- Murcipa Watson
- Haseltine Bradley
- Eximena Beck
- Bittie Conner
- Cluria Beck
- Corda Beck
- Merphia Conner
- Dice Lambert
- Mrs. Calunbar Lambert
- Cpradela Maney
- Simans Mathis
- Shady Bales
- Algeria Dowdle
- Jessomay Redman
- Pollard Reagan
- Paralee Treadway
- Rube Broome
As I've already said-I didn't get a Cora Lee Mease story to go with our visit to this historic church. What I got is more of a connection or a thought than a story. At first, I was disappointed it wasn't like Cora's story-but I finally realized it is what it is-I asked for something-and something came. Drop back by tomorrow for the final post on Lufty Baptist Church and the Oconaluftee area.
And please-all you genealogists out there-if you recognize any of the names above from your family tree leave a comment and tell us about it.
Tipper
*Source: Ocona Lufta Baptist Pioneer Church of the Smokies 1836-1939. Text by Florence Cope Bush. Over 1,000 names from church records. Copyright 1990 Misty Cove Press PO Box 22572, Concord, TN 37933-0572
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I love the name Cread. I'll bet a lot of these names came from Europe.
Posted by: brenda s 'okie in colorado' | February 28, 2013 at 12:35 AM
Tipper, genealogy would take days to write for the names listed for the church. The Lambert names are in my family. They are mixed up with the rest names. If you go back to the Childers Blog. Berthy and Thomas Childers are on the list of Ocona Lufty Church members.
I’m surprised that Don C. never had an article on the Smoky Mountain Turnpike Road Book head of Oconalufty River heading to Tennesse belonging to Robert Collins. This book contains the names of the workers with their names, male and female personal accounts. These pages have at the top, List of men working on the Smoky Mountain Road by Indians.
List of Squaws on the Road. The squaws is a Cherokee Indian woman.
List of Little Boys.
There is two columns of names and after each name is a ( ) mark for one days work. 1 days work was 25 cents.
They could take it out in the store. List shows on October15, 1836 each person was paid one pair shoes ($2.25 and one pair socks .75 cents.) They were paid any where from 6 ½ to .50 cents.
Their names are in Cherokee. One Date was March 5, 6, and 7.
Some of the women would have 38 marks. Some pages would have 67 marks.
One these pages I found my second, third and fourth great grandfathers and mothers, along with their sons and daughters.
Robert Collins was to receive the “ toll” on the Oconalufty Turnpike, and keep it in repair.
(Have more but to long.)
This is courtesy of the Museum Of the Cherokee Indians.
Peggy Lambert
Posted by: Peggy Lambert | February 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM
I don't claim to be a geneologist (I can't even spell it without spell check) but many of those people are in my family tree. A lot of their given names are common in my family. Those named Hazeltine were called Tiny, Hassie or Hazel. Palestine was Pallie, etc. I have nine men named Creed or Cread. Two Creed Ayers. One Creed Ayers is the father of Lessie Ayers Conner who is prominent in one of the Foxfire books. The one on Appalachian Cookery, I think. He could be the first name on your list. I am looking forward to tomorrows post.
PS. Ever heard the name Frankabelle. Her mother's name was Leobelle. I love the creative way people in the olden day's named their children. There was no mistaking lots of them even with only their given names. Ever heard of Quill Rose or Babe Burnett? When I was little Daddy would talk about the old L Etters place. I assumed that he was referring to a Etters man whose name started with L. Come to find out L was Elender Edwards and he was a she. Who woulda thunk it!
Posted by: Ed Ammons | February 27, 2013 at 09:12 PM
You are so right with the uniqueness of the names. You have given some very interesting information. Thanks! Wish I could visit the site.
Posted by: dolores | February 27, 2013 at 08:43 PM
These names are so colorful! I sure do wish I could see them all.
Posted by: Charline | February 27, 2013 at 06:38 PM
Good old names and good old times are pretty much gone,I'm sorry to say !
Posted by: mike echols | February 27, 2013 at 05:57 PM
Tipper, I love the list of names. I feel like I know them.
Don, of course the home place is more welcoming to you when you know the names of the folks who lived there. Those folks are dead and gone doing other things now. You have to name them to get them to come back and talk to you.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow's post Tipper. You asked for some connection a message and of course you get it....just like Don, all you have to do is ask!
Posted by: Miss Cindy | February 27, 2013 at 02:55 PM
Tipper,
I have enjoyed all the stories of
life at Lufty Baptist Church. But
of all the stories we've been
entertained with, nothing compares
to "Cora Lee Mease." And it's set
in motion with a picture of one of
your twins...its classic...Ken
Posted by: Ken | February 27, 2013 at 12:44 PM
I love lists of names! Behind each name is a person who lived, breathed, walked, and just maybe, because listed in church records, worshiped and sought to follow the Lord's teachings. Whether we're related by blood lines or not, we still have ties that bind us!
Posted by: Ethelene Dyer Jones | February 27, 2013 at 12:00 PM
I almost fell out of my seat when the first name you mentioned was Haseltine. My paternal grandmother was Mary Hazeltine Stonecypher Whitlock. I know it's spelled differently, but I've never seen it used as a first name anywhere although I've seen it as a last name a couple of times. She's descended from John Stonecypher, the Corn Baptist preachers, and the Carters who donated land for Mars Hill College and eventually settled where Rabun Gap Nacoochee now sits. I would love to know who she was named after. She passed away when I was little and didn't get a chance to ask.
Posted by: Jane Bolden | February 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Sheryl's post caused me to remember that when I was in grammar school I also went by my middle name. It wasn't until I started high school that I was called Bradley. Don't really remember how that came about.
Posted by: Bradley | February 27, 2013 at 09:34 AM
Don's memory is right (at least this time!), the twin daughters of Edgar and Christine Fisher were high school classmates of mine; indeed, we were in school together all 12 years as well as being in a private kindergarten together.
One other thought on Maisie and Frank. While they had no children of their own (Maisie's daughter, Agnes, was by her first marriage), they were devoted to work with youth. This manifested itself at Arlington Baptist Church but especially at Camp Living Water on Deep Creek. Both give selflessly to that effort, which continues to grow and expand as a Christian outreach retreat for youth to this day.
It's a great setting, with ball fields, a ropes course, swimming pool, and fire ring tight against the banks of Deep Creek. Every time I fish that stretch of stream something I've done literally hundreds of times over the years, I think about this wonderful couple.
Jim Casada
Posted by: Jim Casada | February 27, 2013 at 09:02 AM
Tipper: Just the name Mease is barely 'connected' to my family. My dear Aunt Mary Mease lived to be 102 years old and was a brilliant lady!
Eva Nell
Posted by: Eva Nell Mull, Ph.D. | February 27, 2013 at 08:28 AM
The names are fascinating, some I imagine were actually nicknames.
I would imagine there would have been a revolt by now if you had given the girls one of the names you mentioned. I was the only Sheryl in my school, I remember in the first grade telling everyone my name was Ann (my middle name) so I wasn't different.
Posted by: Sheryl Paul | February 27, 2013 at 08:04 AM
Another comment about the list of names - I know exactly where some of them lived, having researched and located their home places. Sometimes when I find a home place, I don't know who lived there. But when I know a name ahead of time, it adds a lot to the visit. I don't want to get all metaphysical on you, but it seems to me that I usually feel more of a sense of welcome when I can put a name with the place.
Posted by: Don Casada | February 27, 2013 at 07:50 AM
I sent the link to the Maisie Queen recording on to several friends I grew up with and had known her. One of them responded with a question that had occurred to me, but I hadn't followed up to try and answer.
If you'll recall, there was a mention of Maisie's mother Mary being a Fisher and also a twin to Ben Fisher.
My high school buddy's uncle's name was Edgar Fisher. Edgar and his wife, Christine Coggins Fisher (who taught first grade in Bryson City) lived in the Bushnell Community before TVA took the land for Fontana Dam. Edgar was postmaster there and later in Bryson City.
What really is interesting - and what spurred my friend's question - was that Edgar and Christine had twin daughters (who were in brother Jim's class, I believe). In addition to Maisie and Ben and these two girls (both still living, so I'm not naming them), there are apparently a bunch of twins in the Fisher family.
Posted by: Don Casada | February 27, 2013 at 07:42 AM
B.-I'm positive many of the names are misspelled-like you said they spelled them the way they sounded. And yes the book lists the names by years : )
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Posted by: Tipper | February 27, 2013 at 06:42 AM
Tipper,
I wonder how many of these names where just spelled the way they sounded. I noticed that narcissus was spelled two different ways.
Where some of these names on the list, just the persons nickname, I pondered. It seems also, that the last name and the first could be reversed...Does that make sense?
At any rate it is a very interesting post. I loved it, sure does make me think of reading the 1000 names listed.
Another thing, is there a breakdown of years that those listed attended this church. Maybe one could see the name changes through the years...
Thanks for all your work,
Posted by: B. ruth | February 27, 2013 at 06:30 AM