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February 27, 2013

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I love the name Cread. I'll bet a lot of these names came from Europe.

Tipper, genealogy would take days to write for the names listed for the church. The Lambert names are in my family. They are mixed up with the rest names. If you go back to the Childers Blog. Berthy and Thomas Childers are on the list of Ocona Lufty Church members.
I’m surprised that Don C. never had an article on the Smoky Mountain Turnpike Road Book head of Oconalufty River heading to Tennesse belonging to Robert Collins. This book contains the names of the workers with their names, male and female personal accounts. These pages have at the top, List of men working on the Smoky Mountain Road by Indians.
List of Squaws on the Road. The squaws is a Cherokee Indian woman.
List of Little Boys.
There is two columns of names and after each name is a ( ) mark for one days work. 1 days work was 25 cents.
They could take it out in the store. List shows on October15, 1836 each person was paid one pair shoes ($2.25 and one pair socks .75 cents.) They were paid any where from 6 ½ to .50 cents.
Their names are in Cherokee. One Date was March 5, 6, and 7.
Some of the women would have 38 marks. Some pages would have 67 marks.
One these pages I found my second, third and fourth great grandfathers and mothers, along with their sons and daughters.

Robert Collins was to receive the “ toll” on the Oconalufty Turnpike, and keep it in repair.
(Have more but to long.)
This is courtesy of the Museum Of the Cherokee Indians.


Peggy Lambert

I don't claim to be a geneologist (I can't even spell it without spell check) but many of those people are in my family tree. A lot of their given names are common in my family. Those named Hazeltine were called Tiny, Hassie or Hazel. Palestine was Pallie, etc. I have nine men named Creed or Cread. Two Creed Ayers. One Creed Ayers is the father of Lessie Ayers Conner who is prominent in one of the Foxfire books. The one on Appalachian Cookery, I think. He could be the first name on your list. I am looking forward to tomorrows post.
PS. Ever heard the name Frankabelle. Her mother's name was Leobelle. I love the creative way people in the olden day's named their children. There was no mistaking lots of them even with only their given names. Ever heard of Quill Rose or Babe Burnett? When I was little Daddy would talk about the old L Etters place. I assumed that he was referring to a Etters man whose name started with L. Come to find out L was Elender Edwards and he was a she. Who woulda thunk it!

You are so right with the uniqueness of the names. You have given some very interesting information. Thanks! Wish I could visit the site.

These names are so colorful! I sure do wish I could see them all.

Good old names and good old times are pretty much gone,I'm sorry to say !

Tipper, I love the list of names. I feel like I know them.
Don, of course the home place is more welcoming to you when you know the names of the folks who lived there. Those folks are dead and gone doing other things now. You have to name them to get them to come back and talk to you.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow's post Tipper. You asked for some connection a message and of course you get it....just like Don, all you have to do is ask!

Tipper,
I have enjoyed all the stories of
life at Lufty Baptist Church. But
of all the stories we've been
entertained with, nothing compares
to "Cora Lee Mease." And it's set
in motion with a picture of one of
your twins...its classic...Ken

I love lists of names! Behind each name is a person who lived, breathed, walked, and just maybe, because listed in church records, worshiped and sought to follow the Lord's teachings. Whether we're related by blood lines or not, we still have ties that bind us!

I almost fell out of my seat when the first name you mentioned was Haseltine. My paternal grandmother was Mary Hazeltine Stonecypher Whitlock. I know it's spelled differently, but I've never seen it used as a first name anywhere although I've seen it as a last name a couple of times. She's descended from John Stonecypher, the Corn Baptist preachers, and the Carters who donated land for Mars Hill College and eventually settled where Rabun Gap Nacoochee now sits. I would love to know who she was named after. She passed away when I was little and didn't get a chance to ask.

Sheryl's post caused me to remember that when I was in grammar school I also went by my middle name. It wasn't until I started high school that I was called Bradley. Don't really remember how that came about.

Don's memory is right (at least this time!), the twin daughters of Edgar and Christine Fisher were high school classmates of mine; indeed, we were in school together all 12 years as well as being in a private kindergarten together.
One other thought on Maisie and Frank. While they had no children of their own (Maisie's daughter, Agnes, was by her first marriage), they were devoted to work with youth. This manifested itself at Arlington Baptist Church but especially at Camp Living Water on Deep Creek. Both give selflessly to that effort, which continues to grow and expand as a Christian outreach retreat for youth to this day.
It's a great setting, with ball fields, a ropes course, swimming pool, and fire ring tight against the banks of Deep Creek. Every time I fish that stretch of stream something I've done literally hundreds of times over the years, I think about this wonderful couple.
Jim Casada

Tipper: Just the name Mease is barely 'connected' to my family. My dear Aunt Mary Mease lived to be 102 years old and was a brilliant lady!

Eva Nell

The names are fascinating, some I imagine were actually nicknames.

I would imagine there would have been a revolt by now if you had given the girls one of the names you mentioned. I was the only Sheryl in my school, I remember in the first grade telling everyone my name was Ann (my middle name) so I wasn't different.

Another comment about the list of names - I know exactly where some of them lived, having researched and located their home places. Sometimes when I find a home place, I don't know who lived there. But when I know a name ahead of time, it adds a lot to the visit. I don't want to get all metaphysical on you, but it seems to me that I usually feel more of a sense of welcome when I can put a name with the place.

I sent the link to the Maisie Queen recording on to several friends I grew up with and had known her. One of them responded with a question that had occurred to me, but I hadn't followed up to try and answer.

If you'll recall, there was a mention of Maisie's mother Mary being a Fisher and also a twin to Ben Fisher.

My high school buddy's uncle's name was Edgar Fisher. Edgar and his wife, Christine Coggins Fisher (who taught first grade in Bryson City) lived in the Bushnell Community before TVA took the land for Fontana Dam. Edgar was postmaster there and later in Bryson City.

What really is interesting - and what spurred my friend's question - was that Edgar and Christine had twin daughters (who were in brother Jim's class, I believe). In addition to Maisie and Ben and these two girls (both still living, so I'm not naming them), there are apparently a bunch of twins in the Fisher family.

B.-I'm positive many of the names are misspelled-like you said they spelled them the way they sounded. And yes the book lists the names by years : )


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Tipper,
I wonder how many of these names where just spelled the way they sounded. I noticed that narcissus was spelled two different ways.
Where some of these names on the list, just the persons nickname, I pondered. It seems also, that the last name and the first could be reversed...Does that make sense?
At any rate it is a very interesting post. I loved it, sure does make me think of reading the 1000 names listed.
Another thing, is there a breakdown of years that those listed attended this church. Maybe one could see the name changes through the years...
Thanks for all your work,

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