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June 12, 2014

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I called both of my grandfathers "Grandpa." The distinction I made when referring to them in a conversation with someone else was that I added their last name, e.g. Grandpa Casada and Grandpa Ledford. Although brother Jim now refers to Grandpa Casada as "Papa Joe," I don't ever remember him using that term in our youths. Loved the info on Grand Sir (and Grancer)!

I only had the privilege to know one and it was Pa to all of us grandkids. My other one died back in the 30's so I just called him Grandpa. I'm so sorry I haven't been around lately and I missed ya'll at the Festival. I was suppose to be there along side our Miss Barbara Woodall, bookleggin our books but I've been laid up fer quite sometime. Hopin that'll change soon. I'm so sorry I had to miss seeing ya'll.

Grammy and Grampy on my mother's (English-Irish) side, and MaMere and PaPere (sounding like muh-MARE amd pup-ARE) on my dad's (French) side. I'm the youngest of five, and by the time I arrived on the scene, Grampy and MaMere had passed away, and I only remember seeing my PaPere once...I was very little and just recall seeing a very tall, bald man come up on the porch at the Old House as I was playing (illegally) with my brother's Handy Andy Tool Kit while the boys were all at school. My Grammy was a wonderful part of my life when I was little...I was probably a terrible little pest, but I really knew she loved me. She lived in a little house right next door and I spent a lot of time with her. Most of my happy childhood memories are of time spent with Grammy.

On my mommy's side there was Grandpa. Grandpa's father lived with him and Grandma. I was the first grandchild and I remember them explaining all that to me even though I was very young. For my Great Grandpa I settled on a name that made sense to me, I called him
" Grandpa Father." Our son later named my Grandmother. He called her Grandma Great."

Tipper,
Thanks for the "ancer to grancer"! I just love this term grand sir or grancer for a grandfather! I'd say that term is not being used much in Appalachia anymore, do you think? I have been stalking my brain trying to remember if I ever heard that term from any of my aunts, uncles, cousins, parents or grandparents. I just can't remember a conversation where it was used or referred to!
I do remember some being called "cuz" or such. Mama referring to some as "outlaws" instead of "inlaws", in a teasing manner, I think maybe, I hope! ha...
My father-in-law would have heard the term for sure. He was insistant that the grandchildren always answered him adding "sir" on the end...Yes sir, No sir and Maybe so, Sir, etc. If they didn't, he made them stand there til they got it right! That didn't last too many years. ha
My Mother-in-law told them to please just say yes and no and please don't say Ma'am. I'm not your neighbor, I'm your Mam-maw!
Thanks Tipper,
PS...Jeanette's "Papoo" is so sweet, endearing and might I add cute...that's one I never heard!
PS...You forgot to take off the one extra post that got on here somehow! Thanks!

Tipper,
My mama's daddy died way before I was
born, but all my brothers knew Daddy's
dad as Grandpa "Boots". He was old as
the hills, but could squat (just like
a frog on a lilly pad) for a hour, then
get up and walk just as if nothing was
wrong. One time he walked to Murphy to
get a strong cough medication for one
of his sons. He knew the druggist there.

We called daddy's mama "Mom" and she
was a little figgity thing that just
couldn't be still. Boots died in '63
and Mom in '67(the year I graduated
High School.) ...Ken

Grandpapa, Grandpa, Grandfather, Pa. Grandmama, Granny, Mimi

My father's daddy was our Papaw and my daddy was a Papaw too. My husband is called Pop by our grands since it's what he called his Grandad.

Tipper,
My daughters call me daddy, and their
6 daughters call me PawPaw. My oldest
granddaughter had a daughter in January so I wonder what she'll call me.

That picture of Ben helping in the fields with his Grandpa is precious.

In reading Don's comment, I was surprised to learn about the Pilkingtons. Archie Pilkington married
my aunt. They lived in Canton...Ken

My granddaughter knows me as Grandpa Bob and her other one as Grandpa Paul. She's the only one I'll ever have, but if I can only have one, she's the one I'd pick.

One of my great-grandfathers on my father's side was called "GrandDad" or "GrandDaddy". Other than that, the elder men are mostly "Grandpa"; although when they were toddlers the older two granddaughters called my husband "PawPaw" - I was very sad when they switched to "Grandpa" - -not sure why they did. I'm a variety of names: "Grandma" (add a first or last name), "Granma" , "Gramma",sometimes "Grams" or "Grammy". It's like the young ones are constantly trying out new names for me - I just know if the first sound is "G.." they are probably refering to me.

For a time, my father told my kids and grandkids that he was "Grandpa Jack", which they enjoyed calling him; but he tired of that and told them just to call him "Grandpa". When the great-grandkids came along by daughter-in- law started calling my parents "Dorothy the Great" and "Milo the Great". but that proved to be even more of a mouthful for the little ones than "Great-Grandma" and "Great-Grandpa",so "Grandpa" is the all purpose word for any male who is not their "Daddy" for their "Uncle".

Somehow we all figure it out although it can get confusing.

Our first grandchild, who is now twenty-six, called us granny and papoo. She never even bothered to ask if that would be acceptable. It was. We were blessed in that we were able to spend a large portion of our time with her as she grew up. We even taught her to drive and took her for her first permit and later her license. When she got married she insisted that her Papoo play the wedding march on his guitar and be the officiating minister. All seven of our other grandchildren called us granny and papoo. Our first great grandchild is due in August. He can call us whatever he wants to as long as it's granny and papoo.

We used Papaw for both of my Granddads. We used Granny for one granny and Mamaw for the other one.

I called both of mine Papaw! My husband is called Grandpa by some of the kids and Papaw by others. My grandmothers were called Memaw by me. Brings back sweet memories.


B.Ruth-the sound of the word Pap uses is just like sweet Pearls Grancer : )


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I was never privileged to have known either grandfather. Both of my grandmothers were called grammaw (no n) so had their husbands survived, I guess they would have been grampaws.
Both my grandboys call me papaw.

Tipper,
and Don...so interesting that you added more about the term grancer or grandsir, that Tipper mentioned in her post. Let us know the "ancer about grancer", the sound of the term Pap used.
Thanks Tipper,
Just had to put that last note in, it just seemed to fit!

Pearl Cable, the sweet young filly from way up on Pilkey Creek, referred to the patriarch of her family as "Grancer" Pilkington.

I did a bit of family tree review, using both a printed copy of fine work done by Lawrence Hyatt, who has a family connection to the Pilkingtons, as well as the resources of Ancestry.com.

No Grancer was to be found.

It was in a discussion with the sweet young filly from way up on Peachtree Creek, Delia Watkins, that a light came on for me.

Delia's great grandfather Oz Ball, lived to be over 100. She said that his given name was Osborn(e), but that all she'd ever heard him called within the family was Grand Sir; the way she said it came out more like one word, very light on the "d" - if at all. Sort of like when I say Grandpa, the "d" is silent.

That's when it dawned upon me that Pearl's Grancer was a mountain version of Grand Sir. When Pearl heard it as a youngster, she'd understandably taken it to be his given name.

Pearl's Grand Sir was Nathan Moses Pilkington, the first of their outfit to call what was then Hubbard's Mill Creek home. It got to where there were so doggone many of those Pilkingtons (and no Hubbards) running around the area that the name was switched to Pilkey Creek.

Brother Jim noted at the time (about 2-1/2 years back) that Grand Sire was commonly used in England, and noted that verbally efficient mountain folk simply reduced it to Grancer.

Tipper, it would be interesting to hear if Pap's rendition comes out sounding more like one word than two. Please let us know.

My granddaughter has three grandfathers. She calls one Pop-Pop, one Grampy, and one Grandpa. I had some learning with the words Papaw and Pappy as my friends in NC use those terms. I only had one Grandparent - a Grandpa and that was it. As children we always looked forward to his visits, especially on Christmas Eve.

Tipper,
You sure can see the (posture-body shape) resemblance between Papaw and Pap.
We are Pappaw and Mammaw here! Our grandkids also have a "Pappy" and a "Nana"...the other is called Mammaw this last name or Mammaw that last name, when referring to one or the other.
I was known by my mother-in-law as Little Mamma! She rarely called me by my name, while I was pregnant and after I had children. Sometimes my nephews and nieces would even call me Little Mamma, after hearing Mammaw call me so...Ha
There is some in our family that call their Grandfather..."Pop" and there is a "Mimi", too.
I had a "Mama Tweed" and a "Big Daddy"! Good ole Southern grandparent names I thought!
My Fathers parents were known to me as "Granny" and "Pap", but one of my Grandfathers died when I was in elementry school and I didn't get as close to him as I was Granny, Mama Tweed or Big Daddy!
I am interested in seeing other comments about favorite Grandparent names...
Thanks Tipper, enjoyed this post!
PS...Did Pap's Father play and sing as well as Pap?



I always called my grandfathers Grandpa Jack and PaPaw. My grandson calls me Pap. It is good to be reminded. These men had a great impact on my life and I still think of them often. I would give anything to be able to spend some time with them now. If you have a Father or Grandfather, or Mother or Grandmother alive now, don't miss any chance to spend time with them.

I had a Pappy and a Pa.

I called my dad's father Paw, there were several grandchildren ahead of me and that's what they all called him. He was my only grandfather. My mother's parents were both gone before my mother was married.
Yes, your right, the girls are lucky to have two actively involved grandfathers.

My Dad's father died when I was 3yr old and I don't remember him, but my Mom's Dad we all called him Papaw, her Mamaw.. One of the cousins called him must Paw,, he just wanted to be different I guess..

Here in Australia most grandparents get Nan and Pop or Nanny and Poppy from the littlies but I'm Grandad and my wife is Grandma to our nearly eighteen grandkids, occasionally one of the littlies will call me Grandaddy though.

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